The hypocrisy of male vs female offenders.

once again i’ve woken up WAAAAY to early and stumbled over to my laptop. after perusing the blogs i like i found this gem (again by Keoni). i’ve ALWAYS been amazed at the double standard towards male-female persecution of pedophilia/abuse /violent offender sentencing (especially as a victim of molestation). i’m just blown away that female offenders seem to be treated as victims or their crime’s are marginalized and the (very liberal) media seems to remove any accountability of the female offender. at any rate, here’s the link to keoni’s post:

http://hawaiianlibertarian.blogspot.com/2011/06/whats-good-for-goose-is-good-for-gander.html

for some fucking stupid reason, wordpress won’t let me direct link the post. and it only does this with Keoni’s site. i’m starting to HATE wordpress. WTF.

 

i promise my next post will be more sunny, puppy doggish, and a better reflection human joy. i’ve been negative as of late, and i’ll make ammends. but there’s SOOO much shit out there that offends me to the point of wondering HOW it get’s no attention.  :/


18 Comments on “The hypocrisy of male vs female offenders.”

  1. Lily says:

    Women who have been involved in crimes against children are really reviled here. I would imagine that many people who would immediately know who Myra Hindley is, they would not be able to name the man (Ian Brady) so easily. They were both given life sentences.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors_murders

    “Hindley was told that she should spend 25 years in prison before being considered for parole. The Lord Chief Justice agreed with that recommendation in 1982, but in January 1985 Home Secretary Leon Brittan increased her tariff to 30 years.[145] By that time, Hindley claimed to be a reformed Roman Catholic.” Ian Brady doesn’t want to be released so hard to know what would have happened in his case.

    In other cases, like the West murders, the man killed himself before trial/conviction. That’s quite interesting, I think.

    I hope that man who killed MIlly Dowler who has finally been found and convicted (big case in the UK, for reasons I don’t want to divulge, I and others I know helped the police in their enquiries when it happened many years ago) doesn’t manage to get away with killing himself in prison. He seems to be a really nasty piece of work (read up some other stuff about him..which if true..). His legal team also treated the Dowler family appallingly, trying to blame them for Milly being out etc. Pulling out her dad’s porn collection to make them look like bad parents. For F’s sake, they are just regular middle class people. The guy is a rapist and a murderer, a child rapist and murderer, don’t you *dare* try and blame the victim or her family.

    • dannyfrom504 says:

      as a Smith’s fan, i am quite aware of the “Moors Murders”. VERY tragic.

      i’m not up to speed on the UK legal system. but here in the US it seems to be a bit hypocritical. and that’s why i posted as i did.

      i will look into Milly Dowler’s case offline as you suggested. in fact i’ll email you about it so we can discuss straight away.

      kisses Lily.

      • Lily says:

        Smiths..lol. They increased Myra Hindley’s time again but had an excuse as more evidence. But she died in the end. I wonder what will happen with Rosemary West.

      • Lily says:

        no need to read up on poor Milly if you don’t want to, just to clarify just in case when I said ‘The guy is a rapist and a murderer, a child rapist and murderer, don’t you *dare* try and blame the victim or her family’ when I said you I meant the legal team not the lovely danny lol.

  2. Lily says:

    Let’s get this into perspective, it’s one woman complaining about it.

    Not say a major newspaper or a judge saying it’s fine to share sex offender information about men but not women.

    Having read again, I have to say that i don’t personally have a problem with what the woman wrote in.

    “Web site that posts names, pictures, addresses, phone numbers, and even “routes to work” of women that the site deems to be false accusers of rape, among other designations.”

    I don’t think it’s very responsible posting this sort of information. The man is innocent till proven guilty. In the same vein, the accuser should be left alone until the case is heard.

    People in the MRA area immediately say any rape accusation is a false rape one. Roissy about the DSK (that IMF guy, IMF as in financial not the website which also publishes information about ‘false rape accusers’) case said that it can’t be true as mouth rape was impossible because women have teeth. Bad enough when some said French men said oh it’s not rape rape, it’s just ‘troussage de domestique’, oh right she’s a maid, that’s alright then. But saying things like this, think of the type of reader he has. And some are really young and look up to him.

    Given a lot of men in the MRA, if I went to the police to file a rape case (which is actually quite unlikely, like most women I know I wouldn’t want to go through the experience), I don’t want my address or my routes to work covered on the internet. I mean I don’t even use foursquare etc on Twitter because you have to be careful as a girl.

    That said, though I haven’t really looked at that Don’t Date Him girl website, but if there was similar stuff about men, if there was, I wouldn’t think anything of a man complaining about it.

    • dannyfrom504 says:

      Lily-

      what the HELL are you getting at? are you ok?

      • Lily says:

        Am I missing something?!

        Are women who have been convicted of a crime like killer or rapist not on the official Sex Offender registries?

    • Lily says:

      That said I am thinking that like other crimes, rape accusers (that’s a funny term isn’t it, we don’t say ‘robber accuser’ or ‘mugger accuser’ though the latter does have a nice ring to it) should be in the public domain not anonymous.

      Otoh. I suppose two of the issues are:
      1. there is still some sort of ‘damage’ to you which you may not want people to know about. I mean say you’re single & want to get married, having been raped will still (though not like in the old days) affect you in a way having been robbed doesn’t.
      2. There are some nasty people around who would want to do some damage to you because they automatically assume you are making a false accusation (e.g believe it or not in the ‘manoshphere’ there appear to be men who think that if a girl has sex with one or more men, then what differences does it make to her what other men she has sex with)

      And these days it’s not like it’s on some piece of paper you have to go down to the police station or town hall and look up. Just type it up and thousands of people are looking at it.

      But on 2, you could say the same about other crimes. Like for example if some ‘pikeys’ were likely to come ‘get you’ if you accused on of their bretheren of robbing you.

      xx

      • dannyfrom504 says:

        Lily-

        i’m simply commenting on what i’ve seen in the US. i know you’re getting weary of the “manosphere” and God know’s, i only frequent 3-4 sites. but it doesn’t mean that what i post has no VALIDITY.

        i VERY much appreciate having a female perspective on my posts. i kind of think i need it tbh. having you here gives me a sense of balance, so i’d appreciate it if you keep stopping by.

        i’m sure by now you know i’m not some woman hating dick-bag. i quite adore the female of the species and look forward to finding the one i can call my own……and she me.

        till then……kiss the little one’s for me and may they grow to be JUST as strong as thier Mum.

  3. Keoni Galt says:

    Danny – didn’t know you had your own blog…just thought you were a regular commenter over at Badger’s, Dalrock’s et al.

    Welcome to the blogosphere!

    Don’t worry about linking me, I don’t think it’s word press’ fault, it’s probably Blogger.com’s.

    I have been blogging for a couple of years before WordPress became popular. I’ve thought about changing over to wordpress after discovering I really like the control panel (by writing for the Spearhead and IMF) far better than Blogger’s format….but simply never got around to it.

    Just sticking with blogger out of habit and convenience.

  4. J.M says:

    Danny

    You have a very neat website and I commend for that. I also read some of the blogposts in the manosphere and even though some posters are tiresome (I don’t recommend all the manosphere websites for everyone) there is something true that many female posters do not want to look into: most of the legal guaranties you assume are there to protect you from injustice (presumption of innocence, till proven guilty, the right to know who is your accuser, the respect of your dignity etc.) are blown appart and dissed whenever a rape case comes in, hell in you’d have a better chance defending against a false accusation of manslaughter than from rape (look into Duke’s rape case, were it not for their money THEY WOULD BE IN JAIL).

    Those are things that cannot be swept under the rug and that in the long term will damage women as more and more men will forgo their natural instinct to protect the female and believe them, when in many states its been officially stated that most rape Accusations are false (sorry Liliy). I write this as someone who is worried about his own little daughter, an adorable 4 years old.

    • dannyfrom504 says:

      JM-
      thank you for stoping by. i appreciate it. my nieces appreciate it to. i’m trying to get my girls out here now. please keep your finger’s crossed me.

    • Lily says:

      “most rape Accusations are false ”
      I’m genuinely interested on this. Can you point me to some links from the states official stats or police reports or media?

      I had a quick google but can’t find much of substance, but it may well be because I’m searching from the UK. And I also had just had a quick look but presumably you’ve got researched/got some bookmarked. I found this which said could be as high in 1 in 4. Which is way too high, but not most. So really would be interested to see so I can read up on it more.

      http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194032,00.html

      • dannyfrom504 says:

        Lily- i don’t think most women make false claims of rape. but i do personally know of 2 claims where a woman consented to sex, then clamied rape after being ridiculed (both women had slept with a black friend). both men did time in jail. so it DOES happen, albeit rarely.

        one friend was a 17 year old boy, and the other 20. the 17 year old spent 3 months in jail and the 20 year old spent 6 months.

        again, i know cases such as these are the exception, not the rule…..but they do hapen.

        on the other side of the spectrum, a good friend of mine, named Lilly btw, was almost raped when i was in high school, i had to call a friend to put a stop to it (i’m not a big guy, and dude was HUGE). but…….i was was able to put a stop to her ordeal. to this day…she, i, and her brother are close friends.

        Lily….i understand your weariness with the whole scene, and God know’s i try not to dwell to much on the negative aspects. but…..there are very real issues of complete unfairness/hypocrisy towards men. and that’s something i can’t just gloss over.

        does that make me hate women……NO, absolutetely not. but this blog is simply a means to vent.

        that and i can ALWAYS take the AK-47, and mossburg to the range and sort out my issues.

      • J.M says:

        Well Lilly, if you are interested you can check Eugene Kanin’s work and what he says in his investigation: “With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community,
        45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were
        studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases
        (n = 109) reported during this period. These false allegations appear to serve
        three major functions for the complainants: providing an alib~ seeking revenge,
        and obtaining sympathy and attention. False rape allegations are not the
        consequence of a gender-linked aberration, as frequently claimed, but reflect
        impulsive and desperate efforts to cope with personal and social stress
        situations.”

        Please take into account that many other researches declare that he is understating his statistics and he is already telling you that around 41% per cent of all rape accusations are false, which shows (at least in the States) that the problem is far from being something “rare”. Just for reference check Linda Fairstein, who heads the New York County District Attorney’s Sex Crimes Unit. Fairstein, the author of Sexual Violence: Our War Against Rape, says, “there are about 4,000 reports of rape each year in Manhattan. Of these, about half simply did not happen.”

        I hope I could be of help.

  5. johnnymilfquest says:

    Danny, to get the links to show up in the actual post with wordpress – rather than just the comments – you have to highlight a word in the text (for example, “Keoni Galt”) and copy the link from another tab, press the link button (looks like a piece of chain) and a box pops up for you to insert the link. Paste the link in there, click OK and then the words “Keoni Galt” will show up as a hyperlink.

    It works the same with Blogger, apart from the comments where Blogger doesn’t allow links at all.


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