Watching guys screw it up…can benefit you

i’d been wanting to share this for a while so i guess tonight is as good a night as any.

i was at my local when a group of 5 black guys sat next me. the interesting thing about that night was there was a table with 3 women dining alone. you NEVER see a group of just women at the local. the girls were: 2 soft 6’s and a 4 (the 4 was quite over-weight). finally one of the guys approached the table. i was about to leave but decided i wanted to watch the free show. after opening the 3 set, he chatted for about 15 minutes. now….out here white girls LOOOVE the brothers. it’s just funny that most of the brothers pick the BUSTED girls. doesn’t make sense to me but whatev’s. i digress. well after 15 minutes, dude came back and employed the assistance of a wing. here’s where it got interesting.

the guys appeared to be doing well, the girls were giving IOI’s and eventually the 4 got up and went to the bathroom. this is when the guys sat at the table. the 4 came back and the 5 of them chatted for about 30-45 minutes. i looked over at the guys friends and said. “your boys are going to fail in the most epic manner trying to close 2 6’s and a 4.” this got a nice chuckle from the guys. i said, “someone needs to go over there and help, they’re gonna need it. i already know how this is going to pan out. again….laughter. the guys all said they had no interest in joining that pick-up.

the girls paid their bills and got up, the guys followed suit and each guy stood before the girl he had been chatting up. they were talking for less than a minute when the 4 stood between the girls and dudes. she was shaking her head no, and making “no” hand gestures.

 

the guys tried but floundered. they followed the girls out and after 5 minutes came back inside and posted up with their friends and the friends told them what i said. i laughed, “you guys made a HUGE tactical error there fellahs.”

 

so…..i’d like to ask the class:

  1. what was the tactical error?
  2. what SHOULD they have done?

i’ll post my answer tomorrow. stay up.


28 Comments on “Watching guys screw it up…can benefit you”

  1. Anonymous says:

    Nobody to jump on the grenade?

  2. anonymous says:

    One of them need to try the grenade(4) to leave her unarmed while one of the 6 is left partially alone. So the 6 who’s left partially alone try to take over the guy who’s talking to the grenade(4).

    The 6 defuse the 4. Even if the 4 try to stop everything, the other girl already have bump her from the guy(probably once more).

  3. Caelaeno says:

    Ignored the 4.
    Someone should’ve taken one for the team (or not, she could be a perfectly wonderful person) and gamed her.

  4. Strikes me that they shouldn’t have sat down when the 4 had gone to the bathroom – I read that and it felt wrong. Kind of plays as though they were waiting for her to ‘get out of the way’, or that they were replacing her, pushing her out of the group dynamic. Could easily have made her feel unwelcome when she returned.

  5. Rusty says:

    Strikes me that they shouldn’t have sat down when she went to the bathroom. Felt kind of wrong when I read it. Something about it… it’s like they were waiting for her to get out of the way, or as though they pushed her out of the group dynamic at that point. I wouldn’t be surprised if she felt rather unwelcome when she came back.

  6. Athor Pel says:

    Were these guys trying to pick the 6’s up then and there or were they just trying to number close?

  7. JS says:

    Uneven group. 3 girls, 2 guys…should have been 3 and 3. Someone should have been gaming (defusing) the 4.

    And, because no one else has said this, I’m going to venture this theory…. it seems like the guys were there for quite a while…aren’t you fellas supposed to do the “false time constraints” thingy to leave us girls begging for more?

    • dannyfrom504 says:

      “it seems like the guys were there for quite a while…aren’t you fellas supposed to do the “false time constraints” thingy to leave us girls begging for more?” dear Lord, you’re walking on the sun.

      as far as the uneven group….they were doing fine, but they dropped the ball when given a great opportunity.

  8. JS says:

    lol…What does “you’re walking on the sun” mean?

  9. JS says:

    ok…regarding the false time constraints:

    the initial guy should have either:

    a) not gone in alone the first time he approached (aka brought a wing) and then the two guys should leave the girls after 15mins (which he did but he went back w/ a wing…the return was the tactical mistake.)

    OR b) when he went in alone and then left 15mins later…he NEVER should have gone back with a wing. He should have stayed w/ his friends and waited for the girls to seek him out.

  10. Odds says:

    Failed to escalate. How long did you say they were talking? An hour? And they didn’t sit down with the girls for the first 15 minutes? They should have either given a false time constraint and number closed (easy mode), or moved to a second location where they could begin to isolate. They weren’t moving forward fast enough, which killed their try more than the grenade did.

  11. Jamie says:

    Regarding Brothas and Busted Chicks: These dudes are probably onto something. Do you know that Harry Bellafonte song?

    “If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, Never make a pretty woman your wife. So from my personal point of view, Get an ugly girl to marry you.”

    I kid-I kid. That’s a southern thing. Out here, they date hotter women (usually). Thicker, yes, but still good looking.

    Ok, guess time: The guys paid their tabs and left the bar at the same time that the girls did. The girls were probably thinking, “uhh…what do these guys think is going to happen? Get a life, loser.”

    Also the uneven group thing. I’ve been the DUFF before and it’s depressing to know that a guy is only talking to you to get to your hot friends, but I honestly do appreciate the gesture. It’s not about “taking one for the team” it’s about engaging her so she doesn’t become angry and resentful and cockblock you.

    • dannyfrom504 says:

      “Also the uneven group thing. I’ve been the DUFF before and it’s depressing to know that a guy is only talking to you to get to your hot friends, but I honestly do appreciate the gesture. It’s not about “taking one for the team” it’s about engaging her so she doesn’t become angry and resentful and cockblock you.”

      as i said in the post, the 5 set was doing VERY well. all 3 girls were laughing and having a good time. when i told the guys what they SHOULD have done of of them replied, “i was kinda thinking that too. DAMN!!!!”. lol.

  12. OffTheCuff says:

    Women don’t isolate themselves from their own group without reason. She didn’t go to the bathroom with the other two, so maybe she was giving them some room to operate?

    I think the men failed escalate at this point, which probably would be done by inviting all them into their own group. That would give the two women the *option* to bail or decline, saving face ever way.

    Who knows. Seems like they boxed them in, and missed out a very strong isolation signal. If a woman is sending green light and you think it’s red, you will pay dearly. They take it as rejection.

  13. Ceer says:

    I’m thinking the 3 and 1 set is stronger than the 3 and 2 because one of the 3 can be isolated relatively easily.

    For my guess, I’d say it would have been best to try to bounce with the 4 in the bathroom. As a guy, this feels wrong because of guy code, but girls aren’t guys. I’m assuming by your using the word “eventually” that there was sufficient comfort built up to venue change.

  14. blazefrazier says:

    Should have thrown a biscuit away from the table for the 4 to chase.


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